Central Mass Tea Party Up In Arms Over Gun Control
Thursday, February 07, 2013
The Leicester/Paxton/Rutland/Holden Tea Party Group played host to Jon Green, director of education and training at the Gun Owners' Action League (GOAL), the official state association of the National Rifle Association in Massachusetts.
GOAL has been engaging in a statewide education campaign. A recent rally in North Brookfield featuring speakers from the organization attracted a crowd of close to 500, and Green said GOAL is expecting 200 to 300 people for its next educational rally at the Boxborough Holiday Inn on February 17.
"We don't want to lose the momentum," he said.
While momentum seems to have slowed a bit on the statewide gun reform legislation filed by Governor Deval Patrick, Green said the local level is emerging as the next battlefield in the fight over the Second Amendment.
The town of Westford has introduced a bylaw for on the warrant for its Annual Town Meeting in March that would prohibit the sale or possession of so-called "assault weapons" and other specific firearms within the town limits.
"They are attacking our civil rights on the local level," Green said, adding "There's just not enough of us" to get the word out and educate people on their rights and the implications of the proposed bylaws and legislation.
One bright spot in the ongoing battle has been GOAL's work with a new gun rights organization called "It's Time 2A," which Green said has a number of motivated young people in its ranks who have been very proactive in getting their message out and educating others.
"They're building up a pretty influential force," he said.
Len Mead of the Northborough Tea Party
Mead said that, without their own Washington bureaus or reporters, local papers rely too heavily on the Associated Press for news out of the nation's capitol. He argued that the AP creates low-information voters and was signing up volunteers to stand out in front of the local news outlets' offices and point out what they're missing in their coverage.
On the topic of firearm legislation, Mead said the problem wasn't the guns themselves, but mental health. He pointed to the dramatic decrease in public mental health institutions and the large numbers of mentally ill individuals who are not receiving the treatment they need.
"The solution, of course, is concealed carry," Mead said, which would allow gun owners to ensure their own safety, rather than be subject to the actions of someone who may be armed and less than mentally stable.
Wayne Cormier of Oath Keepers, a group whose members take the U.S. Uniformed Services Oath of Office and swear to uphold the Constitution, addressed the Paxton crowd as well.
"America is a battlefield now. We're at war," he said.
Oath Keepers also have a declaration of 10 orders they will not obey, which include disarming any American citizens and the use of military forces or martial law against citizens at home.
"Somebody comes to take your gun, they've got to go through me," Cormier said.
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Comments:
Iron Mike Farquhar
9:11am on Thursday, February 07, 2013
Thank GOD for these Patriots [and their guns],...because the socialists, statists, and communists amongst us would quickly turn our free Republic into a 21st Century version of Hitler's Germany or Mao's China!
Edward Saucier
5:07pm on Thursday, February 07, 2013
That Tea Party crowd is a dumb as dirt.
Harry Huckum
5:57pm on Thursday, February 07, 2013
Ed, you should put a sign in front of your house that says "Gun Free Zone"
Iron Mike Farquhar
6:10pm on Thursday, February 07, 2013
Poor Ed, his sign should say 'Literacy Free Zone'!
Edward Saucier
9:15pm on Thursday, February 07, 2013
Give me my badge of honor and then put me on your "enemies list" you bunch of jackbooted fascists. I love to fight and will love the smell of your fresh blood in the morning.
Iron Mike Farquhar
9:34pm on Thursday, February 07, 2013
Dear Editor, I think Mister Saucier ~ may ~ be off his medication again,...talking about the smell of fresh blood...
Perhaps he should be on the 'National No fly / No Post' list?
Harry Huckum
12:04am on Friday, February 08, 2013
Don't fall getting out of your wheel chair Eddy boy.
Tim Roesch
12:39pm on Friday, February 08, 2013
I was the last speaker. I spoke on how the third amendment, often ignored, makes the second amendment far more easily understood for what it is: a finger in the face of the newly created Federal Govt, telling it that one of the many reasons the people have the inherent right to bear arms is to form militias to defend themselves gainst tyrants, like those from a Federal Govt.
Also, Eddy should be able to explain his 'dumb as dirt' comment and, if possible, defend it otherwise it is merely a childish swipe at something he knews little to nothing about.
Iron Mike Farquhar
1:08pm on Friday, February 08, 2013
It's a lost cause Tim. Mister Saucier is a lifelong Liberal – he gets his talking points from Nancy Pelosi, Jim McGovernment, and Debbie Wasserman-Shultz. He'll never change.
I hope to see his face the day his SS check arrives – at just 50¢ on the dollar. He has such faith in the federal government...
Edward Saucier
4:30pm on Friday, February 08, 2013
I love it when a plan comes together. Like getting the dim bulbs in an uproar with silly statements that they take seriously. Like I said... dumb as dirt. Any of you all looking for tyrants, just check out the ones that were in the Bush regime. They really loved the stench of other peoples blood. Lock & load and have a blast.
Stephen Quist
12:41pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
Well it certainly looks like the extremist fringe groups are off their rockers.......what a joke....they call themselves patriots???
The founding fathers would have laughed their asses off listenting to these modern day kooks.....these teapartiers are a stain on our country's heritage
Stephen Quist
12:45pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
Herr Roesch Ed Saucier does not have to answer any of your extremist drivel.......you are part of a very marginalized extremist cult that in no way at all reflects American values.....thats why you and your fellow teapartiers cannot get elected here in Worcester......your bretheren are even too afraid to stand up and be counted in a local elections or statewide.........
Iron Mike Farquhar
1:00pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
Aah, Messrs Quist and Saucier – the bookends of the Left Wing and the Obamacrats.
It might be useful to hear their views on why Citizens should be stripped of their 2nd Amendment Rights – and how they think we can defend ourselves in our homes without them.
I'd particularly like to know if either has ever been trusted with a firearm, - and exactly when they feel that Massachusetts became such a safe place to live that individual weapons were no longer necessary for personal security...
But alas, - once again I'm erring by expecting a cogent response...
Stephen Quist
1:28pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
Cormier of the oath keepers states "America is a battlefield now - we are at war"
Who are you at war with Cormier - fellow Americans?
Are you at war with everyone you disagree with?
the oath keepers sound anything BUT American.......
Stephen Quist
1:30pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
Then we have (as pictured) lenny mead playing toy soldiers with pointy tri-corner hats....lenny find another hobby you look absolutely silly.....
Iron Mike Farquhar
1:35pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
With all ~ due ~ respect Mister Quist, - I'll take Lenny's tricorn any day - over your pointed dunce cap...
Now instead of flinging your night soil around - tell us about your views on the 2nd Amendment, and how safe Massachusetts has become over your lifetime. Have you EVER been trusted with a gun Mister Quist?
Stephen Quist
2:39pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
sure rusty mike sure.......with all due respect? You have yet to show anyone respect and you get back what you dish out.......you do sound rather testy today.......I digress....I have repeatedly weighed in on the gun issue and the 2nd amendment and on the loony tune phonies that claim they and only they are the true Americans like you have aligned yourself with.......
Iron Mike Farquhar
2:52pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
Your response is non-responsive Mister Quist...
What EXACTLY is your position on our 2nd Amendment?
Have you EVER been trusted with a gun? When? Where?
Stephen Quist
3:00pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
I go skeet shooting with Obama every weekend at Camp David....
you sure are testy today......too much snow rusty mike?
Harry Huckum
4:35pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
Go clean some turd stains off of some water closets Q. It is what you are meant to do.
And if you believe that Obama has actually shots skeet, then you must be referring to the other skeet, as in skeet skeet.
Mike, He has probably had at least one DUI and that would be a disqualifier here in the people's republic of disarmachewshits. He is lucky that they trust him with a toilet brush or he would be out of work.
Iron Mike Farquhar
4:43pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
A DUI? Ooh, how unfortunate....
Was there ever a point in his life when adults trusted him with a firearm?
Harry Huckum
5:19pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
I doubt that he has ever been trusted with anything more lethal than a bottle of tidy bowl and a bowl swisher or a mop and bucket.
Stephen Quist
5:24pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
lmfao.....this is too precious.....the huckster and rusty teaming up against me........the two of you combined still do not equate to one intelligent response......
Iron Mike Farquhar
6:27pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
Nobody is 'teaming up against you' Mister Quist. Paranoia is a form of mental illness, – and it ~ can ~ be a reason to deny you a license here in the Commonwealth...
No, I'm simply asking simple fact-finding questions so as to judge the validity of your comments.
1. Have you ever fired a gun?
2. Do you understand how guns work?
3. Has any adult EVER trusted you with a gun?
Edward Saucier
6:36pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
BANG, BANG, BANG, how many people have the crazy Tea Party crowd killed? If the government attacks you all your assault weapons will look like pea shooters.
The NRA is run by a certifiable nutjob.
The government is not, I repeat, is not trying to take your guns away from you.
The government wants to put a ban on assault weapons with some exceptions, military, police, National Guard etc.
So all you T-Party morons should get a grip on reality. I know that's asking a lot from a group of imbeciles, but give it a try...OK?
Adapt, innovate, overcome.
Iron Mike Farquhar
6:58pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
On WHAT basis and authority Mister Saucier – do you pretend to speak for and give assurances to us on behalf of the Government?
It's not like the government ever shot an innocent person in the head [Ruby Ridge] – or drove a tank into somebody's home and burned it down [Waco], or sent in a SWAT TEAM to grab a little kid – like Elián González...and send him to live in a Communist country.
To many of us, you've demonstrated consistently less credibility even than the US Government.
Think about it;...- you've said that ObamaCare is a good thing, - you've ignored the reality of 47 million Americans on welfare, - and you've even stated that you BELIEVE that Obama is both a US Citizen and a Christian..... I bet you believe he's a Democrat too...?
So pardon us if an 'assurance' from you comes in the door undervalued.
And,...BTW,...can YOU explain exactly what an 'assault weapon' is...? Have YOU ever fired a gun?
Harry Huckum
8:29pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
I see the old communist was able to get out of his wheelchair today to reach the computer.
Here is a classic from the socialist one party useful idiot Ed
http://www.telegram.com/article/20121222/LETTERS/112229965
When Bill Clinton raised the top marginal federal income tax rate, Republicans said it would destroy the country. When George W. Bush cut the top marginal tax rate, Republicans said it would make the country heaven on Earth. Neither one happened. Facts are facts and Republicans don’t believe in facts. Republicans keep doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results, which they never get. And that is why Republicans are always on the wrong side of history.
Republicans have to take off the blinders and understand that their ideas are driven by wrong beliefs. For example: The government doesn’t create jobs, companies do. Markets can monitor and correct themselves without regulations. The government isn’t the solution, it’s the problem. Trickle-down economics work.
All the Republican ideas are silly slogans and misrepresentations of material facts. They are snake oil salespeople trying to bamboozle an ignorant electorate they consider to be stupid enough to keep them in office while they take away all that they value. And in many towns, cities and states throughout the country they seem to be having their way.
Until people start voting sane, intelligent people into office this aberration will continue and the country will never come out of this present GOP-created mess.
In other words, dump the Republicans and vote all Democrats into office. After all it was the Democratic Party that passed the laws that made the middle class in the first place while the GOP fought them tooth and nail.
EDWARD A. SAUCIER
Worcester
Harry Huckum
8:45pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
Mike,
The government just shot and killed two innocent women who were delivering newspapers as they conducted a man hunt for one of their own, a disgruntled former LAPD officer who says that he was discriminated against by that same government.
Our Government has killed more children in drone strikes just last year than have been killed in the last 40 years by "so called" assault weapons.
But liberals leftist extremists like Wheelchair Ed don't let facts get in the way of their fantasies.
Harry Huckum
9:03pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
Ed,
It's got that new tank smell
http://www.telegram.com/article/20120715/NEWS/107159769/0
Harry Huckum
11:40pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
Ed,
You are a socialist shite bag and you need to be reminded of it constantly.
MORE OF YOUR COMMUNIST BABBLE.
Have you ever noticed that you only get printed on Saturdays?
That is when they print the crazy people.
http://www.telegram.com/article/20121020/LETTERS/110209967/0
Good dose of socialism is what we need
I recently heard a venture capitalist say that they create jobs and assist struggling companies become stable and an asset to the economy. Two companies have been taken over by two different venture capital firms recently that don’t quite fit the above definition — BJ’s Wholesale Club and Sensata Technologies. Neither was a struggling company.
BJ’s, a retail operation, has a stable membership income, a cash-rich balance sheet, and a strong cash flow, according to a Boston Globe article. The company was taken private, as the new owners could make things better that way. But for who? If you know anyone who works there or you shop there, pay attention to what happens in the future. Talk to them about their new owners. I predict the workers will take losses in wages, free speech and other working conditions while the new owners will reap the additional profits for themselves.
Sensata Technologies, a profitable company, set a record last year for profitability. What did the capitalists do for those 170 workers? Gave them all pink slips and by November, Sensata Technologies will be in China — moving expenses being a write-off for United States income tax purposes.
The BJ’s buyout was in all the papers, but the Sensata Technologies buyout, or should I say sellout, was nowhere but Democracy Now on WCCA TV 13 Worcester. Great show for those who want to learn about events not shown elsewhere.
In order to survive, our country needs a good injection of socialism to offset our growing, debilitating capitalism.
EDWARD A. SAUCIER
Worcester
Iron Mike Farquhar
12:54am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Now Harry, don't be bringing up their socialist pasts. This isn't the time. The subject under discussion is our 2nd Amendment and the Washington gun-grabbers.
We need to know if Messrs Saucier and Quist actually know ANYthing about the subject, or they just 'shooting from the left wing' again.
So Gentlemen, – have you ever fired a gun? Ever fired a FULLY automatic 'assault rifle' – on full automatic?
Ever been trusted with a real gun – and bullets? Or you both just spouting left-wing party slogans?
Harry Huckum
11:41am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
If you are for gun control, then you are not against guns, because the guns will be needed to disarm people. So it's not that you are anti-gun. You'll need to police's gun to take away other people's guns. So you're very Pro-Gun, you just believe that only the Government (which is of course, so reliable, honest, moral and virtuous...) should be allowed to have guns. There is no such thing as gun control. There is only centralizing gun ownership in the hands of a small political elite and their minions. "
Stefan Molyneux
Edward Saucier
1:38pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Harry - I see you save my "Letters to the Editor" - Hope you enjoy them - you post them a lot. I "hear" Saturday is the "least read" edition of the T&G. Which is why, I suppose, that my "good buddy" the Letters Editor posts them on that particular day. However my letters usually reach the "most commented on" list. Except for one that was posted on a Friday not too long ago, so I'm right at home in Saturday's forums.
I have another coming up soon. I expect it on Saturday Feb.23rd. Keep an eye out, it's complicated due to the 250 word limit, so I put in a few headlines to Google for those who wish to learn more about the subject of ...would you believe it, gun control. Of course you and your's won't agree, because you won't bother to look up the intel enclosed in the letter and continue to be blissfully ignorant of the facts, but that's life in the fast lane and typically republican. .
If you don't know, and it looks like you don't, there is a difference between communism and socialism. However, according to Benito Mussolini, there is little difference between fascist and capitalism. And he was a fascist, therefor he should know.
Harry and his pals may be narrow minded and ignorant but rational people grounded in reality always agree with my "letters." So keep posting them here Harry for those who missed them, I find it flattering, as so many people have told be how much they like them and wait for my next one to appear.
Iron Mike Farquhar
2:16pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Mister Saucier, you're still avoiding the key question:
Have you ever fired a gun? Ever fired a FULLY automatic 'assault rifle' – on full automatic?
Have you ever been trusted with a real gun – and bullets? Or are you just spouting left-wing slogans?
AND, at what point in time did Worcester become so safe that you feel citizens no longer need firearms for personal protection?
Stephen Quist
12:59am on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
harry the huckster and rusty mike make the best case day in and day out of why the republiCant party is such a failure......please don't stop now guys - you got some more potential voters to turn away from your extremist views.......next you guys are going to advocate for term limits....lmao.....
Iron Mike Farquhar
1:14am on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
Mister Quist, you're still avoiding the key question:
Have you ever fired a gun? Ever fired a FULLY automatic 'assault rifle' – on full automatic?
Have you ever been trusted with a real gun – and bullets? Or are you just spouting left-wing slogans?
AND, at what point in time did Worcester become so safe that you feel citizens no longer need firearms for personal protection?
Stephen Quist
8:22am on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
just curious rusty what your fetish is with firing guns and holding bullets......?
As you know I have previously and relentlessly weighed in on this subject......
now like you try to to do with MrSaucier why don't you go back and dig up my posts......
And when you do what an a**hole you will look like when you see my position on guns..........
BTW Worcester IS the safest city in New England
Stephen Quist
9:41am on Thursday, February 14, 2013
As I thought rusty mikes silence speaks volumns